First Revolution Pictures!

It's hard to write subtle satire on the net but that's what I was alluding to. People automatically compare specs like that and automatically assume that a system is more powerful or more capable. In reality we really don't know every working of a computer or console. If we did, we'd all be engineers right now. The fact is that even the most minute detail COULD have some bearing on the final performance of a system, but not every single spec has to be set in stone. There are variables some numbers can sway to yet still be comparable if not more powerful in strength. Unless you really understand the hardware, no one can make claims about a system's ability or not.
In my opinion I don't see an extreme difference in graphics capabilities between PS2 to Gamecube to Xbox. The difference is noticeable, but noticeable at best.
Once you get that high in processor speed, numbers soon become numbers. They are still meaningful, but not as much as they once were just as bits count are now nothing.


@Pilot: Exactly. According to specs, the N64 was at least twice as powerful as the Playstation, but Nintendo was beaten nontheless. I think this is why they've taken such an approach to say that raw processing specs aren't everything because if they were, Nintendo would still reign supreme as the king of home console gaming.

my bad @ specs.

however, don't forget that Mario and nothing but Mario on next Gen tech is still just that. nothing but Mario. remember how nintendo promised that the gamecube would be "more mature" than the pervious system? they got one franchise (RE) and then went strait back to Kirby Air Ride.

also consider that the gamecube is clearly more powerful than the ps2, but is still in last place in this generation of consols. nintendo needs to (but wont) invent itself some mature franchises if it doesn't want Zelda to appear on the ps3.

obviously im not a nintendo fan boy. but why should i be? i spent my money from my first months worth of paychecks on an N64. sure, maybe some of you think $250+ isn't that much to spend for a system with one good game (made by rare) but it was to me. screw nintendo for their constant consol debacles. they wont get one more red cent from me.

I totally agree. I think they SHOULD be an "or" company. If you like simple games try this OR if you like mature games, try that. This AND bullcrap is getting on my nerves. Don't they realize that their previous core audience is now around 30-40yrs old?

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I know. And Nintendo Europe have confirmed it.



Since when have we trusted GI? They make more mistakes than SPoNG ;).

Furthermore I can't find the article anywhere on GI's site, or on popular gaming sites. The most quoted figure appears to be 2 - 4 times the Gamecube.

You didn't seem to catch the numerous things wrong with your last diatribe young unknown. So let's begin the dissection, shall we? First, the ONLY reason the Gamecube version of Soul Caibur II did so well was the prospect of playing as Nintendo's most and arguably the most in all of video games badass character, Link! It also reinforces how much NOT a kiddy machine Gamecube was. If SC II was sold through the roof and people only bought it because of Link (don't tell me the controller or the slighly under the X-Box graphics pushed people to the GC version), that means Link is badass and Nintendo doesn't have such a kiddy style aura about them. Oh and as for the figure, I suppose you were referring to your line of text, we'll call it fig. 1a. I present to you fig. 1a "...soulcalibur 2 of the gamecube outsold x-box and ps2 combine..." Oh yes I read it, over and over! And I was laughing the whole time. If maybe you were referring to actual sales figures, followed by some actual numbers or a link to a story with said figured listed in it, that would of made your quote a little less funny, which I assume you were not going for. Thankfully, I am in the know about all things gaming and know of the figures you speak. So I was able to verify that in fact you have had said something that was factual and also somewhat meaningful.

Now as for problem #2 I present to you my list (fig. 2a):

Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2 - Echoes
Super Mario Sunshine
Mario Party 4
Mario Party 5
Mario Party 6
The Legend of Zelda - The Windwaker
Warioware Inc. - Mega Game$
Donkey Konga
Donkey Konga 2
Eternal Darkness
Metal Gear Solid - Twin Snakes
Ikaruga
Mario Golf - Toadstool Tour
Mario Kart - Double Dash
Mario Tennis
Paper Mario - The Thousand Year Door
Phantasy Star Online - Episodes 1 And 2
Resident Evil 0
Resident Evil 1
Resident Evil 4
Tales Of Symphonia
Viewtiful Joe
Super Monkey Ball
Super Monkey Ball 2

25, count 'em, 25 games that in my opinion are "top notch". Note: these games are or were at one time exclusives on the Gamecube.

Now the total Gamecube (American) library almost tops 500 (www.gamestats.com SEE?! LOOK! A link to back me up!!! What a concept)

25 out of 500, surely not half yet. I'm not even good at math and I know this.

Now I'll assume you were talking about third party NON-exclusives too. Dumb? Yes. Because you're trying make a point that Nintendo has lots of good titles on it, but having the ability to play SSX on PS2 AND X-Box is not going to make me buy a Gamecube. But I expect nothing less from Mr. "unknown". So for arguements sake, let's say you WERE talking about ALL the "top notch" games (fig. 2b http://my.ign.com/my/sb?pageID=2003&nuaction=gameSearch&gameTitleSearch=Enter+Game+Title
Do a search for GC games between 8-10 in ratings, see how many games come up.)
and we get to 183. I'm being real generous here, I don't think anyone would buy Scaler or Dr. Muto but hey who knows!

Alright son, ready for a little more math:

I say 25 GOOD EXCLUSIVE games.
IGN says 183 games rated 8-10.
Gamecube library is roughly 500.
You said "gamecube has over 300 games and more than half were top notch"

So by your numbers 183 out of 300!

Yep, you were right, you win! More than half! Have fun playing Sega Soccer Slam and I-Ninja.

I will walk away in defeat...

I'll back you up a little more; SPOnG has, to date, 566 Gamecube titles in its archive. This will undoubtedly include some territory specific titles, Japanese most likely, but they will be merely a handful.

Thanks. Hey, how's E3 going? And say hey to Lupos for me.

Beyond the drunken reports (it's post-"after-party" in LA when we get to talk with the guys) and editorial you see here, I don't know - I'm still in Blighty, with techy work to do :(

We'll have full reports in the coming days, once the dust settled and our drunken emmisaries have returned and sobered up.