Sony Wants Microsoft In Blu-Ray Camp

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deleted
Joined 4 Jul 2007
2320 comments
Thu, 6 Sep 2007 12:50
"Blu-ray has a good 8 to 10 years before the internet catches up."

is this a quote from 1997 and this comment is brought to from the same company that forsees the PS4 as discless? f**king Sony morons am i the only one who see`s every comment sony is currently making as a completely stupid one?
ultimateassmonkey
Joined 8 Jun 2007
58 comments
Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:36
Nope, you're not the only one!
Bentley
Joined 28 Mar 2006
242 comments
Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:43
But you are a bit stupid.

Blu-ray has a maximum capacity of 50GB. I don't know how much your average HD movie takes up of that, but let's say a movie takes up 10GB, just as an example. Even with a 10MB broadband connection, that's going to take some time to download, if you are downloading it for the purpose of keeping it, as opposed to watching it once at the time (the difference between saving the movie to disc and "streaming" it to your TV). If a HD movie is 10GB, there are only so many you can fit on your HDD even if you have a 200GB HDD (especially now Vista takes up 15GB of that). So Blu-ray does seem a good option as a media format for movies, over downloading them. At least for now.

Plus factor into this the idea that Sony want PS3 to have a lifespan of 10 years... and what they say isn't stupid at all- it's the people who jump up so readily to knock them without analysing the facts and statistics at the most basic level who are the idiots.

Let's face it, most movies you download on bittorrent are compressed way below HD standards, and the quality on YouTube is s**te at best. In summary, what Sony said makes sense. Although I wouldn't say "people aren't interested" in downloading videos, I'd be more inclined to say the quality of most downloads is far inferior to the quality of an HD movie on Blu-ray disc.
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Joined 4 Jul 2007
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Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:41
Bentley if you read what i was quoting it was the fact sony was saying that the internet is 8-10 years away from HD quality downaloadable movies, so bentley if you are so f**king stupid to think that is true then that explains your sony fanboyism so much, it is quite possible right now to download a HD quality movie if the companys so wished today!,

Now if you wanted a 10GB file on a 10Mbit connection (providing the server has the correct speeds set) you could have that file in around 3-4 hours, now if broadband speeds are increasing all the time as there are, lets say around doubling over year for year, then why on earth would it take 10 years for this to become a possiblity,

Bentley if you want to just insult my comments your free to, but at least do so in a way that doesnt make you look and sound so f**king stupid, prick,,,, f**king sony fanboy, show me the facts that you jumped up and studied to protect your comments....prick again..

And your f**king stupid comment is exposed as the `testicle scratching prentending to be cleverer than most prick type comment` it is by just looking at Xbox live in the US and they currently have a HD downlaod service!, and those files are well below 10GB and they are also very comparable to Blu-Ray`s current quality, so shut up with your total b******s and go f**king troll PS3fanboy.com site.
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Fri, 7 Sep 2007 05:53
haritori wrote:
Bentley if you read what i was quoting it was the fact sony was saying that the internet is 8-10 years away from HD quality downaloadable movies, so bentley if you are so f**king stupid to think that is true then that explains your sony fanboyism so much, it is quite possible right now to download a HD quality movie if the companys so wished today!,

Now if you wanted a 10GB file on a 10Mbit connection (providing the server has the correct speeds set) you could have that file in around 3-4 hours, now if broadband speeds are increasing all the time as there are, lets say around doubling over year for year, then why on earth would it take 10 years for this to become a possiblity,

Bentley if you want to just insult my comments your free to, but at least do so in a way that doesnt make you look and sound so f**king stupid, prick,,,, f**king sony fanboy, show me the facts that you jumped up and studied to protect your comments....prick again..

And your f**king stupid comment is exposed as the `testicle scratching prentending to be cleverer than most prick type comment` it is by just looking at Xbox live in the US and they currently have a HD downlaod service!, and those files are well below 10GB and they are also very comparable to Blu-Ray`s current quality, so shut up with your total b******s and go f**king troll PS3fanboy.com site.
Captain Chaos!
Joined 3 Jul 2007
28 comments
Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:08
haritori wrote:
"Blu-ray has a good 8 to 10 years before the internet catches up."

is this a quote from 1997 and this comment is brought to from the same company that forsees the PS4 as discless? f**king Sony morons am i the only one who see`s every comment sony is currently making as a completely stupid one?


No you're not. They really have lost any PR skill they had over the last couple of years.



mrAnthony
Joined 6 Dec 2006
258 comments
Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:38
wow, so so vitriolic. how many times does he need to say prick. all he was doing was commenting, he wasnt being aggressive at all, then POW, prick prick prick. why are you so angry? its not like he was killing youre family. people need to calm down a bit.

btw, im a fanboy for no man.although i dont think that many people will be downloading hd movies, proper hd movies, on their pc for a while, i see it on the 360, as they kinda spoon feed their user base. so you dont have to use any kind of effort. but yeah on a pc, i dont see youre general man about town doign that for a good while. not 10 years, maybe 2-3.

dvds/bluray/hd dvd, are too easily available, and you know what, people like packaging, what else are they/me going to clutter their house with?
Captain Chaos!
Joined 3 Jul 2007
28 comments
Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:48
blu ray on microsoft consoles?

you've got more chance of sega programming a mario game!
schnide
Joined 23 Apr 2004
575 comments
Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:10
haritori wrote:
f**king stupid, prick,,,, f**king sony fanboy, show me the facts that you jumped up and studied to protect your comments....prick again..


Whatever else you've said has completely lost it's value. You can't blame your dyslexia for that one Haritori.
RIPRAW
Joined 14 Oct 2004
38 comments
Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:01
If you guys cant find hd downloads on the net, you clearly aren't looking hard enough. Virtually every HD TV show shown in the states and the UK is available in 720p on certain torrent sites aswell as on Usenet. Some scene release groups have also ripped films at 1080p, but the demand is still a little low (since they can be upwards of 12GB). 720p releases are very common however. You can find virtually all blu-ray and hddvd films at 720p if you know where to look. These 720p h.264 encoded films generally weigh in at 4.2GB, so you can fit them on a DVD if you so choose.

The 50GB available on Blu-Ray discs is pretty unnecessary for films in my opinion since these are also encoded in h.264
mrAnthony
Joined 6 Dec 2006
258 comments
Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:49
"These 720p h.264 encoded films" -- shudders, what a horrible compression. i dont get why people use h.264, it washed out everything, and makes it look decidedly UN HD. when i render out films (i mean films i make) i use photo jpeg, thats OLD, and it looks so much better than h.264.

its still compression, so its not true HD, and thats what i mean. these files are pretty much dvd quality. rather than hd quality, not that im knocking that, cos in my humbl eopinion, if you watch a dvd through hdmi on a hdtv, and watch the same film on blu ray, through the exact same process. i dont really see that much difference, certainly not upwards of £1000 difference. ie, blu ray player, hdtv etc. dvd's through hdtvs still look very very good.
deleted
Joined 4 Jul 2007
2320 comments
Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:53
me Anthony wrote:

wow, so so vitriolic. how many times does he need to say prick. all he was doing was commenting, he wasnt being aggressive at all, then POW, prick prick prick. why are you so angry? its not like he was killing youre family. people need to calm down a bit.


schnide wrote:

Whatever else you've said has completely lost it's value. You can't blame your dyslexia for that one Haritori.


Yes to both of you i agree it was un-called for on that level (which i lowered) it was just his opinion (although he did get a little personal and not just in this post) and if you check you will see this really is the first time ever i have gone overboard angry on someone, he must of hit a nerve, so Bentley i offer apologies for not what i said but the way i said it.
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Joined 4 Jul 2007
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Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:31
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RIPRAW
Joined 14 Oct 2004
38 comments
Fri, 7 Sep 2007 19:41
mrAnthony wrote:
"These 720p h.264 encoded films" -- shudders, what a horrible compression. i dont get why people use h.264, it washed out everything, and makes it look decidedly UN HD. when i render out films (i mean films i make) i use photo jpeg, thats OLD, and it looks so much better than h.264.

its still compression, so its not true HD, and thats what i mean. these files are pretty much dvd quality. rather than hd quality, not that im knocking that, cos in my humbl eopinion, if you watch a dvd through hdmi on a hdtv, and watch the same film on blu ray, through the exact same process. i dont really see that much difference, certainly not upwards of £1000 difference. ie, blu ray player, hdtv etc. dvd's through hdtvs still look very very good.


The majority of the HD-DVD's and Blu Ray discs found in shops are encoded in h.264. They may use a higher bit rate than these "downloaded files", but you get to a point where having a very high bit rate makes no difference to the perceived quality of the picture. I don't know what the optimum bit-rate would be for a 720p movie, but I can say that these files look much better than an upscaled dvd in my opinion and are pretty comparable to a retail HD disc.

I guess it's each to their own. If you are happy with dvds that's fine. I'd agree with that. I've got loads of dvds and I don't ever see myself upgrading them to HD spec. But now that HD dvds are out, I'd rather buy them (or wait for them) over getting the equivalent dvd.
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Sat, 8 Sep 2007 04:32
RIPRAW wrote:
I guess it's each to their own. If you are happy with dvds that's fine. I'd agree with that. I've got loads of dvds and I don't ever see myself upgrading them to HD spec. But now that HD dvds are out, I'd rather buy them (or wait for them) over getting the equivalent dvd.


The problem is, buy Blu-Ray or HD now and revel in all it's gloriousness with your new collection or play it safe and then end up with tons more antiquated regular DVDs. The quality differential is drastic though. I don't think people have seen a proper set up to say it doesn't look different. And a typical next gen DVD player would run $600-$300 here in the states. Not too shabby.

P.S. There's also the whole you could end up with a heavy paperweight situation.
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