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I hereby declare Sony the worst-run major contender in the games industry since Sega.

Yup, the most expensive (homeconsole) game ever...
over 400 smackers for the full game.

That is crazy, and you know what? People will buy up more and more following on from the initial purchase, which will give Sony the excuses they need to rape the gamer in future games

Wow.

This is like total validation for my suspicion that Sony is the true force of evil in the console market. 'Course since the Japaneese are...the way they are, this might work...in Japan. They try and pull that crap over here, well, you can only push a fanboy so far.

Score one for MS.
Score one for Forza 2.
Score one for Live in general.

'Course, now that I think about it, I wish PGR shipped with no courses, then I could have only bought Nurburgring and been perfectly happy. Assuming I'd save money that is...

Isn't that the point? Who in their right mind has played any GT game for long enough to have used every car in every race possible and upgraded them all to the best spec they can achieve?

Why not give a limited starting position and allow you to get the cars you want to drive? Of course, starting with zero cars and zero tracks is taking it a bit too far, but I appreciate the attempt at flexibility.

I can see where your coming from tyrion but its still going to cost a huge amount, when I had GT games I would constantly buy cars, use them a couple of times and move on - in the end I’d have anything up to 100 cars. It’s all well and good what there doing but they should be charging pennies for bulk cars as opposed to pounds.

Paying for tracks?? That sucks big time, at the very least they should include a good selection of tracks and then offer additional at a cost.

Of course, there's also the subject of cost for the game itself - what if that comes in at a normal game price...

22p to 45p per car and 90p per track seem OK prices to me. £2.25 for a track is a little steeper than I'd want, but I'll bet that's just the price for for the Nürburg ring.

sorry i edited as you replied.

still, 100 cars at say an average of 34p its still £34 on top of standard game price, not to mention tracks, so you could be paying upto £70 for a game with less than half the content of previous gen games

So what happens to the PS3 owners who dont have them online? (like 99% of PS2 owners were). Will they just get a s**tty game?

My comment was more a dig at PGR, the concept of which I find distasteful, than an endorsement of the model. (I want to drive fast cars on roads/tracks than I can drive fast on, not tool around cities, trying to powerslide)

If I was interested in PS3/GTHD then I'd be concerned about one thing. I'd want the Premium pack to include credit instead of them telling me which cars are included(at least 2/3 of total). That way I could avoid the microtransaction system altogether, until and unless I just had to have more than 30 cars. I'd also want a "try before you buy" function in place. Also, do you have to buy them AND earn them? It also seems like it destroys one of main rewards of the single player career, if such is even included or deemed important. If all cars must be purchased via microtransaction, then I guess cars will no longer be awarded for completing events.

Also, from my experience with Xbox LIVE! this WILL be a major pain in the ass for online play purposes.

Host - "What course do you guys want to race next?"

Player 1 - "How about Laguna Seca?"

Player 2 - "No, I don't have that one, lets race Suzuka."

Player 3 - "I don't think I have that one."

ad nauseam

That is a simple set matching problem that can be performed in software at the server. Just show the tracks that all players have access to, or grey out ones that most have so the others can choose to get them before the race. TBH it is the least of the issues with this set-up.

I'm talking about holding a group together online, not simple matchmaking. Packages of tracks would appear to be a superior option...

I've run into similar situations on LIVE! that were annoying, but this scenario presents even more potential hassle, especially considering Sony is still an largely unproven player in the online arena

PGR is a street racing game, it's about racing in streets..... that's like buying Halo & complaining about, "god all you do is shoot aliens".....

wasn't EXACTLY complaining, mocking yes...anyway its a poor concept, IMNSHO. Kudos are an abomination and must be stopped before they take over the world. Combining Supercars with stratospheric top end with short city courses, then rewarding or even requiring what would otherwise be less than optimal driving, just rubs me the wrong way.

I played loads of PGR 2 online, before Forza came out, so I didn't really have much choice at the time. Nurburgring online made it all worthwhile though...without online that was definintely a rental. I also find the lack of a Forza for the 360 bothersome...if there were such PGR wouldn't even be a blip on my radar.