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SCiARA
Joined 6 Sep 2006
327 comments
Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:48
A couple of things, is there that much of a difference between HDMI & Component/VGA, I'm sure Sony have said in the past that there aren’t any difference.

Am I right in thinking that HD-DVD players are region free and won’t be for a good couple of years?

If so, I'd be seriously tempted to import one from Japan for my PAL 360 and play American HD-DVD's
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:18
SCiARA wrote:
A couple of things, is there that much of a difference between HDMI & Component/VGA, I'm sure Sony have said in the past that there aren’t any difference.

Am I right in thinking that HD-DVD players are region free and won’t be for a good couple of years?

If so, I'd be seriously tempted to import one from Japan for my PAL 360 and play American HD-DVD's


Well Ciara, I mean Scurrvy, errr... Scar, whatever that name is..., the difference is there.

It depends on alot of factors; the quality of the signal, the quality of the TV, the quality of the cable used, and the overall outside inteference. If you have a s**tty Westinghouse or RCA tv or whatever, the net gain will be minimal. If you use poorly made HDMI cable or poorly made component cables, the net gain will be minimal. All things being equal, there is a noticable difference. But not the in the same way of SD vs. HD. Or progressive vs. interlaced.
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:21
SCiARA wrote:
A couple of things, is there that much of a difference between HDMI & Component/VGA, I'm sure Sony have said in the past that there aren’t any difference.

Am I right in thinking that HD-DVD players are region free and won’t be for a good couple of years?

If so, I'd be seriously tempted to import one from Japan for my PAL 360 and play American HD-DVD's


Well Ciara, I mean Scurrvy, errr... Scar, whatever that name is..., the difference is there.

It depends on alot of factors; the quality of the signal, the quality of the TV, the quality of the cable used, and the overall outside inteference. If you have a s**tty Westinghouse or RCA tv or whatever, the net gain will be minimal. If you use poorly made HDMI cable or poorly made component cables, the net gain will be minimal. All things being equal, there is a noticable difference. But not the in the same way of SD vs. HD. Or progressive vs. interlaced.

I don't know what your HD-DVD comment was trying to say. Did you ask if HD players are region free? If so then why would you also say ask if it was good to wait on them? It seems like two different ideas mashed together. As of now, HD players follow the same region coding as regular players, same for Blu-Ray. As always, you can get a region free one..., for a price. As for waiting, WAIT GODAMMIT WAIT! Don't spend a $1,000 to be a guniea pig test subject. Suckers game. Wait and let the rich buy there overpriced crap DVD players that freeze every few minutes.
SCiARA
Joined 6 Sep 2006
327 comments
Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:27
what i meant to say was:
Am I right in thinking that HD-DVD players are region free (including the 360 drive) and won’t be locked for a good couple of years?

If so, I'd be seriously tempted to import one from Japan for my PAL 360 and play American HD-DVD's

my dumb arse english
GameGod
Joined 22 Nov 2005
30 comments
Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:52
Great article on n-europe.com:

http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=9582

Really worth the read, someone that knows how to think & speak!!!
tg0006
Joined 11 Dec 2005
60 comments
Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:25
the diffrence is that hdmi has a much faster transfer rait than Component/VGA. This allows for 1080p images and much better sound. as for sony saying theirs no diffrence, they have actually been hypeing up that the ps3 has an hdmi 1.3 which is the newest hdmi standard which makes the picture much better. in all, unless you have a very high quality surround sound system or a 1080p tv, the hdmi wont make much of a diffrence.
fella
Joined 16 Feb 2006
4 comments
Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:02
Regarding the HDMI / Component issue. Component actualey provides a better video transfer than HDMI as anybody with SKY HD will be able to tell you. The reason for this is hdmi cables are very thin so are unbale to provide as clean a signal as component. The advantage provided by hdmi cable is it can cary digitial sound and picture over one cable with better sound quality. That advantage is gone however if you connect your xbox to an external amp.
Joji
Joined 12 Mar 2004
3960 comments
Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:17
Yeah, whatever on the techy bit. So long as I have a tv and can see well that's good enough for me.

As for the Live Arcade games, Yie Ar Kung Fu, Track and Field, Contra, Rush n Attack, damn good list there. Brings those Speccy memories rushing back.
SCiARA
Joined 6 Sep 2006
327 comments
Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:22
Joji wrote:
Yeah, whatever on the techy bit. So long as I have a tv and can see well that's good enough for me.

As for the Live Arcade games, Yie Ar Kung Fu, Track and Field, Contra, Rush n Attack, damn good list there. Brings those Speccy memories rushing back.


I'm sure Yie Ar Kung Fu is Japan only
OptimusP
Joined 13 Apr 2005
1174 comments
Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:22
Everyone forgets the key isseu here...running X360-games at 1080p, you'll get lucky if they run at 20fps...that's next-gen?
SCiARA
Joined 6 Sep 2006
327 comments
Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:24
OptimusP wrote:
Everyone forgets the key isseu here...running X360-games at 1080p, you'll get lucky if they run at 20fps...that's next-gen?


i dont think thats the case if your upscaling from 720p
horngreen
Joined 23 Apr 2005
28 comments
Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:59
Now Sony will say that next gen gaming doesn't start until the PS3 with all new 2160P definition!
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:38
I don't know about all this talk about transfer rates and all, but I what I do know is this: HDMI is digital and will suffer much less interference from outside sources. Also HDMI is has only two states, on or off, so that's a much more controlled signal. Also the quality of the cable matters the most. <snicker>S**tty component cables don't do anything justice, even your crappy little inexpensive Westinghouse or RCA you just bought because it was "a good deal". </snicker>

Three things ultimately determine the quality of your image: Screen, Source, and Connection. Remember, a PS3 on a 20,000 1080p tv ain't gonna look good on $2 cables. It's a fact.
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:49
are you wiiwillwin as well?

Because hes been spamming the whole text of that nonsense (n-europe article) in at least two threads.

Naw, you make about as much sense as him, but you're more clever. At least its relevant to this thread.
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Mon, 25 Sep 2006 02:52
PreciousRoi wrote:
are you wiiwillwin as well?

Because hes been spamming the whole text of that nonsense (n-europe article) in at least two threads.

Naw, you make about as much sense as him, but you're more clever. At least its relevant to this thread.


(*cough, cough) s**tty retort (*cough cough)

Explain Mr. It's Pronunced Wah.
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