Rumour: Classic Wii Pad Harbours Secret

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tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
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Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:45
a rumour has now sprung up claiming that Nintendo will offer remakes of these original controllers and they will plug into the back of the Classic Controller.

Given that the classic controller plugs into the back of the remote, this could get very wired for a wireless controller system.
warbaby
Joined 8 Mar 2005
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Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:04
tyrion wrote:
a rumour has now sprung up claiming that Nintendo will offer remakes of these original controllers and they will plug into the back of the Classic Controller.

Given that the classic controller plugs into the back of the remote, this could get very wired for a wireless controller system.


Damn... you beat me to it. I was just about to say, what kind of crazy chain would you be making. | Wiimote |------>| Classic |------>| N64 Controller|

Who needs rope when you can hang yourself with the cords of a wireless controller...
The Hero of Time
Joined 19 May 2006
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Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:53
Doesn't the Wii Remote attach to the back of the Classic controller? I remember Nintendo saying soon after the unveiling of the Wii remote, that they were making a classic 'shell' the Wii remote would attach too. IGN did a mock up of a Wavebird the Wii remote slotted into. Basically giving it the same functionality of the PS3 controller.
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Sat, 24 Jun 2006 23:12
I remember reading that as well. But it was ages ago. Things may have changed.
TigerUppercut
Joined 28 Jun 2000
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Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:47
The Hero of Time wrote:
Doesn't the Wii Remote attach to the back of the Classic controller? I remember Nintendo saying soon after the unveiling of the Wii remote, that they were making a classic 'shell' the Wii remote would attach too. IGN did a mock up of a Wavebird the Wii remote slotted into. Basically giving it the same functionality of the PS3 controller.

I think Nintendo's keeping it all secret for the time being.
I'll request an outline of how it all works from PR...
tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:06
The Hero of Time wrote:
Doesn't the Wii Remote attach to the back of the Classic controller? I remember Nintendo saying soon after the unveiling of the Wii remote, that they were making a classic 'shell' the Wii remote would attach too.

Well, I look at it this way - the Classic controller has a wire, the only other Wii things that have a wire plug into the remote.

Logically (to me anyway) the classic plugs into the remote, in fact I'm sure I saw pictures of this at E3, but can't find them now.

I always thought this was unwieldy, but if we then have a set of ports on the classic that take the old Nintendo controllers, we are talking a large mess of wires.
Jay
Joined 14 May 2002
188 comments
Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:55
The slot is for memory cards
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:26
Isn't the left hand analog part also wired? Quit yer whining folks.
tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Wed, 28 Jun 2006 07:27
vault 13 wrote:
Isn't the left hand analog part also wired? Quit yer whining folks.

Yeah, but that's just one wire and makes sense since the off-hand controller (let's not propagate the right-handed monopoly on language) is only a single hand unit.

The issue is that the classic is obviously a two-handed job, wired to the remote. Without a clip or slot for the remote, this is not aesthetically pleasing or even easy to hold on to.

If this rumour is true and you can plug NES, SNES and N64 controllers into the classic, there is going to be such a mess that you have to wonder at the sense in it all.

Nintendo would be better off creating a base station with the wireless system the remote uses that can accept the older console controllers. At least that could be placed on a coffee table at a reasonable distance from the TV/Wii and we would only have to deal with wires at one side of the room.
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:38
Why don't they just make everything wireless! That would be the best idea.
tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:50
vault 13 wrote:
Why don't they just make everything wireless! That would be the best idea.

It would, but I assume that even the mighty Wii suffers from the limitations of the wireless system its using.

Just as the PS3 will be limited to seven devices, four of which are controllers (see the four lights on the new controller images) so the Wii will have similar limitations. Once you get four remotes, four off-hand controllers and four classics (for N64 games) in to the mix, you are talking a lot of wireless signals floating around. More importantly you are upping the cost of the wireless system.

Nintendo seem to have taken the approach of sticking with four remotes and daisy-chaining everything else into those. Personally I think that with their main controller being so basic, this may be a drawback to their system. There may be a lot of swapping of the extra controller elements and this may wear out the connection if it's a similar connection to, say, data cables for mobile phones, which the connector on the remote most resembles to me.
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:24
tyrion wrote:
It would, but I assume that even the mighty Wii suffers from the limitations of the wireless system its using.


Nintendo = Magic

If they wanted to create a real live unicorn playtoy for kids, they could. The world is just not ready for the awesomeness.
tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:26
vault 13 wrote:
Nintendo = Magic

Magic != Technology

Wii = Technology

Wii != Nintendo ?

One of us has something wrong! :-)
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:44
If you follow this simple equation, I think it'll all make sense.

Magic = Miyamoto * ½®/(x)² - 2b + Mario * Luigi/Vault 13 > Tyrion + ¼¥(Unicorns are fun) * 2

I hope that cleared things up. It's correct. Go ahead, check it. All signs point to Vault 13 dominance! As in the words of a fellow Warcrafter, you got pwned²!!!
tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:41
vault 13 wrote:
Magic = Miyamoto * ½®/(x)² - 2b + Mario * Luigi/Vault 13 > Tyrion + ¼¥(Unicorns are fun) * 2

I have a truly marvelous dis-proof of this proposition which this posting is too narrow to contain.
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